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How to install KDE 4.1 beta 1 from experimental

The first beta of KDE 4.1 was released a couple of days ago, and of course, we did upload packages to experimental.
It is finally time of encouraging users to try KDE 4. So here are some instructions of how installing KDE 4 and how going back to KDE 3.5 if you feel like KDE 4.1 is not yet for you :)

If you do not want to risk your system, you can use this instructions to install KDE 4.1 in a virtual system such as qemu or VirtualBox.

Some previous notes:

  • Please, pretty please, report the KDE related bugs in the KDE bugzilla at: http://bugs.kde.org Report it in the Debian BTS only gives us extra work that we do not have resources to handle.
  • Report in the Debian BTS the packaging problems you find. If you are not sure, ask in the users mailing list: debian-kde@lists.debian.org
    Archives at http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/

Update to KDE 4

1 Add experimental sources to /etc/apt/sources.list

deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ experimental main

2 Run:

aptitude update

3 Install minimal functional KDE 4 system.
This requires some polishing and if you are using non official repositories for KDE related stuff, your system might break badly. Then run:

aptitude install -t experimental kde4-minimal

It will need remove some packages like: kwin, kicker or ksmserver, that is fine.

4 Restart your system.

Assuming you are using kdm, after restar, you will get kde4's kdm. Log in and voila! KDE 4.

5 Installing the remaining packages.

You still will have KDE 3 stuff in your system and plenty of KDE 4 to install. I would recommend upgrade module to module, for example, for upgrading kdeutils:

aptitude install -t experimental kdeutils

So you can see clearly what is being updated, what programs dissapear and what is new. And if you do not want to test all the KDE modules, you do not need to install it all.

Available KDE 4 modules are:
kdeadmin kdeartwork kdeedu kdegames kdegraphics kdemultimedia kdenetwork kdepim kdetoys kdeutils kdepim and extragear-plasma

6 You can see all the KDE 3.5 packages that are still in your system from a Konsole with:

dpkg -l | grep 4:3.5

Translations are in the package kde-l10n-XX where XX is your language code.

Once you have installed all the KDE 4 packages you want, I would suggest you comment out the experimental source line by adding a # in the beginning.

How to go back to KDE 3

1 Remove experimental from your sources.list

2 Remove all the base packages:

aptitude remove kdelibs5 kdelibs5-data kdepimlibs5 kdepimlibs-data
kdebase-data kdebase-bin kdebase-runtime kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4
kdebase-runtime-data kdebase-runtime-data-common kdebase-workspace
kdebase-workspace-bin kdebase-workspace-data kdebase-workspace-libs4+5
libphonon4

3 Install the minimal KDE 3:

aptitude install kdelibs kdebase kdm

4 Restart your system and the good old kdm should be on your screen again.

5 Now you can continue installing all the KDE 3 packages you like using.
You always can use aptitude install the meta package KDE, but since that installs a lot of packages I would recommend install the metapackages you really want.

The list:
kdeaccessibility kdeaddons kdeadmin kdeartwork kdeedu kdegames kdegraphics kdemultimedia kdenetwork kdepim kdetoys kdeutils kdewebdev

5 You can see the remaining KDE 4 bits on your system with

dpkg -l | grep 4:4.0.80

What KDE will be available in Lenny?

We do not know yet, we would like to ship KDE 4.1 but it is still early to know for sure.


Quick KDE 3 and 4 update

KDE 3.5.9 was released a couple of weeks ago and it is not yet in unstable. You might think the reason is because the KDE team is lazy, and actually we are, but the true reason is we could not upload it until we fixed some problems with Qt3. It will be uploaded from tomorrow, but in the meantime, if you can not wait like 24 hours, you can find packages of KDE 3.5.9 for both i386 and amd64 at:

deb http://people.debian.org/\~ana/kde359/ ./

If you find problems, please send an email to the Debian KDE users list and remember restart KDE after upgrade kdelibs!

These packages are the same packages that will be uploaded to unstable, so you can upgrade safely. Anyway, do not expect big changes out of kdepim.

About KDE 4, 4.0.2 will be released this wednesday, so you will find the development platform in unstable and the rest of the modules in experimental from wednesday morning.
But if you read the latest Release Update, it included a nice sentence There may be a possibility to include KDE4 in lenny. Let me explain this :)
We, the KDE team, are planning start working in packaging the 4.1 branch and if it seems as good as we expect, we will move to package directly KDE 4.1 snapshots/betas/release candidate with the goal of at least shipping KDE 4.1 development platform in Lenny, and maybe whole KDE 4.1 replacing KDE 3.5.X. The details are still undecided, and it all depends of the evolution of KDE 4.1 and Debian release status.


Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers group picture

Debian KDE Team December 2007

Debian KDE Meeting. Cáceres, Extremadura, Spain, 15th December 2007

Top, from left to right: Modestas Vainius, Sune Vuorela. Sitting, from left to right: Armin Berres, Ana Guerrero, Fathi Boudra.

P.S: Still pending send a mail about the decisions taken in the meeting :)

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