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Debian snapshot packages of KDE 4.2

Good news for those wanting to test KDE 4.2. Finally, we have decided to do a little experiment and provide snapshot packages of current KDE trunk (future KDE 4.2).
First of all, I would like to say that even if I am the one blogging, the most part of the job was done by Modestas Vainius.

I am calling this an experiment because we are not sure yet whether this is a good idea, there are several reasons:

  • packaging can suffer big changes before the final release
  • this is still code in development with some important bugs
  • some upstream changes (like ABI bump) can make huge dependencies problems

All the above reasons are likely to generate a lot of demands from users asking for support that are surely too many for our time and, I am afraid, patience.
So, in short, these packages are being provided without any support from your packagers even if they are done by the people who usually package KDE.

You have the repository and all the information at:

The current snapshot is post-beta2 and again, before installing the packages, please read all the information. I am sorry if the wording is read as a bit harsh, but we really wanted make clear the message.

Update (25 January 2008): KDE 4.2.0 will be available soon in experimental, if you are a new user, we recommend you to wait until it is fully updated in the Debian repositories and install it from there.

FAQ about KDE 4.2 in Debian

I got a bunch of emails in the last weeks with one or more of the following questions. Here it is for general knowledge :)

Will be KDE 4.2 beta 1 uploaded to experimental? Or to another public repository?

And KDE 4.2 beta 2?
Maybe. But notice if it is uploaded it will be replacing current KDE 4.1 in experimental, so we will upload it only if we are sure it is stable and mature enough to replace 4.1

Will be KDE 4.2 backports in ?
No, backports were planned only for the KDE 4.1 series.

If experimental starts shipping KDE 4.2 (beta or RC), will be updates in for 4.1.4 (and if released 4.1.5)?
Yes, there will be backports for all the releases of 4.1.x.

When will be KDE 4 uploaded to unstable? And to testing?
KDE 4 will replace KDE 3 in unstable when Lenny is released. After some time, it will migrate from unstable to testing.

Bonus question: When will be Lenny released?
When it is ready.

And you think your family have issues


As in every (free software) project, Debian has problems. Specially, there were 2 big problems:

  • A: We are not good acknowledging, accepting and integrating new members in a good way.
  • B: We have some people accumulating too much power.


In case this was not enough, the people creating the problem B) decided to fix the problem A) totally on their own in a way that makes both A and B worse.

People with too much power are winning. A lot of of the average contributors have good points about all this, but they already gave up (this is a hobby for most of all!) and do nothing because they are already too frustrated. Some try arguing and discussing, but it is not going anywhere because people of the problem B are playing to ignore everything, so you can not argue with silence.

Some people is eating this poisoned cookie, they accept these changes because finally we will be able to integrate (someway) in the project translators, artists, etc, with the cost of change badly another stuff like DM, in the way the people of the group B like.
The proposal or policy is presented as a whole, take it all or leave it.


This proposal or policy will be implemented with some minor changes resulting of "listening" people, then this people causing the problem B, will say this proposal was widely discussed since it was changed because all the discussion.

Ah, and release Lenny sometime too.

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